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Hi all need some advise.! Looking at a 5th wheel that weighs UVW IS 14168, dry hitch is #2775 . I have a 2020 Larimie Longhorn 2500 6’3” bed length and 373 gears and a 6.7 Cummins and question is can I pull it , do I need air bags, and should I get a slider hitch.All opinions and knowledge much appreciated.
 
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:welcome:, you will have to wait for someone more knowledgeable to chime in.
 
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With the short bed, def get a slider! Better to have and not need,...........
Unless the 5th is an older one that doesn't have much of an overhang.
This is our old 5th 26', I got the slider hitch off of FB market and never had to use it
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A DRY hitch weight of over 2700 lbs? That's a heavy camper, more than I'd be comfortable with behind a 2500. I have a CTD in a Bighorn 2500, payload is 2300, I forget what my RAWR is offhand but I'm pretty sure that camper would be over the RAWR of my truck. You having a Laramie Longhorn, your payload is likely even lower because of all the extra stuff on yours, which likely means your RAWR doesn't have as much wiggle room as I do.

In short, yeah, you can probably pull it with bags, but I wouldn't recommend it because you're well outside your truck's rated design parameters. I would suggest looking at a smaller/lighter camper or a new truck to go with that beast of a camper. That thing is HEAVY - my old 42' Cyclone toy hauler weighed about the same empty though the pin weight was slightly higher, and it put my old dually down JUST off the helper springs.
 
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you're over on pin wt. by way too much. as for a slider, I got one because everybody said you need one if you have a short bed, but I have never needed to use it. most 5th wheel trailers are rounded on the front nowadays and that gives you clearance from the cab. you would have no trouble pulling a trailer of that wt. but you need to find one that is lighter on the pin. my 5th wheel rv is 10000# and my '22 laramie 2500 dsl tows it fine but it has less pin wt. then what you are talking about.
 
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Tommyjo said:
Hi all need some advise.! Looking at a 5th wheel that weighs UVW IS 14168, dry hitch is #2775 . I have a 2020 Larimie Longhorn 2500 6’3” bed length and 373 gears and a 6.7 Cummins and question is can I pull it , do I need air bags, and should I get a slider hitch.All opinions and knowledge much appreciated.
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Not in a million years can you pull that beast, no matter what doo-dads you put on it.
 
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Tommyjo said:
Hi all need some advise.! Looking at a 5th wheel that weighs UVW IS 14168, dry hitch is #2775 . I have a 2020 Larimie Longhorn 2500 6’3” bed length and 373 gears and a 6.7 Cummins and question is can I pull it , do I need air bags, and should I get a slider hitch.All opinions and knowledge much appreciated.
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I'll lay this out as simply as I can. First response is... absolutely not. 2500s have a horrible payload rating. That is 100% 3500 DRW territory.

1. Only look at gross weight of the trailer. Dry weight does not matter.
2. You need to look at your payload, subtract the weight of everything that wasn't in or on the truck when it left the assembly line.w THAT is the number your hitch weight should remain below.
3. Airbags do absolutely nothing to increase payload. The weight of the trailer still sits on the bags, which still sit on top of the axle.
4. You can slightly go above payload, as long as you never exceed rear axle weight rating.

The trailer you're mentioning has a gross weight rating that's likely of just shy of 17k lbs (would need to know the cargo capacity of the trailer to confirm). The real wet pin weight is likely going to be somewhere around 3,800 lbs. That exceeds your payload by over 1,500 lbs and likely your rear axle rating as well.

A general "rule of thumb"... if a 5th wheel is much over 10k lbs, it needs at least a single rear wheel 3500 with leaf springs. Much over 13-14k lbs... time to look at a dually.


Smaller trailer or bigger truck.
 
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Get a 3500 dually for that 5ver. 2700 lbs dry is going to be closer to 3200-3500 lbs loaded for camping (batteries, solar, propane, all your shtuff inside the camper and basement). Plus a 200 lbs hitch in the bed, whatever else is in the bed, passengers and gear/tools in the cab.

Of course you got the people that are like "fkit, send it! It's got a deezul!"

If your going to tow a 5ver with a 2500 watch your weights and get a 6.4. Almost 1000 lbs of extra payload over the diesel. At least that's my opinion.
 
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Riccochet said:
Get a 3500 dually for that 5ver. 2700 lbs dry is going to be closer to 3200-3500 lbs loaded for camping (batteries, solar, propane, all your shtuff inside the camper and basement). Plus a 200 lbs hitch in the bed, whatever else is in the bed, passengers and gear/tools in the cab.

Of course you got the people that are like "fkit, send it! It's got a deezul!"

If your going to tow a 5ver with a 2500 watch your weights and get a 6.4. Almost 1000 lbs of extra payload over the diesel. At least that's my opinion.
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Yeah, that. Sorry OP, you're going to need a bigger boat.
 
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Tommyjo said:
Ok thx everyone, I am going different route and appreciate all comments
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If you can find a 5'ver in the 12000-14000lbs. Gross Weight rating, there are some decent campers out there.
 
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With a 12k fiver, the OP would still be over payload by about 300 lbs with his current setup before anyone gets in the truck. Realistically he's going to be limited to about 10k lbs with the 2500. If he goes 3500 SRW, he's good to go with those numbers.
 
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