new to the site hi to all my name is mark up in canada

[mrp2112]

hi to all i have a2012 dodge ram 1500 outdoorsman with a 5.7 hemi i had the hemi tick about 2 mths ago when it bent my#5 intake push rod like a canadian hockey stick and remove about 3/16 of material off my cam so into the rbuild i did every right on the build do to it started up just fine iwas vary happy about that part of the build oo did i mention that iinstalled 6.4 stock cam in it and it was a non MDS cam and lifters set the truck starts fine all day long the codes im getting are as fallowed p2127, p2167, 2166, p2116, p2115 these codes are putting me in to limp mode i have a scanner tool D7 from xtool i cant turn off my mds with this tool or cant find out how to i do the learn app and it shows that it has learned but still in limp mode i have replaced my throttle body any app{gas pedel] i have checked wires they look to be good my volts at the pedal and throttle are 5 volts thats enough for now im looking for wire diagrams for the above mentioned there is no mods done other then mds delete any help would be most greatfull thks mark please keep your stick on the ice

 

[Dean2]

Welcome, if your Name is Mark when you are up in Canada, what is it when you are elsewhere?

 

[Dean2]

If you search turn off MDS you will find the answer to your question. there are 20 pages of posts on the topic.

 

[rule18]

Welcome to RamForum Mark. Good advice above, the Forum's Search tool is your friend. So is a little punctuation LOL!

 

[Wild one]

hi to all i have a2012 dodge ram 1500 outdoorsman with a 5.7 hemi i had the hemi tick about 2 mths ago when it bent my#5 intake push rod like a canadian hockey stick and remove about 3/16 of material off my cam so into the rbuild i did every right on the build do to it started up just fine iwas vary happy about that part of the build oo did i mention that iinstalled 6.4 stock cam in it and it was a non MDS cam and lifters set the truck starts fine all day long the codes im getting are as fallowed p2127, p2167, 2166, p2116, p2115 these codes are putting me in to limp mode i have a scanner tool D7 from xtool i cant turn off my mds with this tool or cant find out how to i do the learn app and it shows that it has learned but still in limp mode i have replaced my throttle body any app{gas pedel] i have checked wires they look to be good my volts at the pedal and throttle are 5 volts thats enough for now im looking for wire diagrams for the above mentioned there is no mods done other then mds delete any help would be most greatfull thks mark please keep your stick on the ice

You're going to need a custom tune to make that cam work.

 

[Wild one]

2 guys with a 6.4 cam in a 5.7 having issues on the same day,at virtually the same time,i'm starting to think maybe troll posts,especially when both just joined today,and both have a 2012.
Seems mighty fishy to me,if ya'll's asking me

5.7 with 6.4 cam and intake makes no bottom end

I have a 2012 ram 5.7 with 120k miles I installed an SRT 6.4 cam kit with MDS delete from AMS Racing. Lifters, timing kit, etc. I also purchased a used 6.4 truck intake manifold with 6.4 injectors. I installed Texas Speed and Performance long tube 2" primary headers and cats. I had a tuner set...

www.ramforum.com

 

[mrp2112]

If you search turn off MDS you will find the answer to your question. there are 20 pages of posts on the topic.

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2 guys with a 6.4 cam in a 5.7 having issues on the same day,at virtually the same time,i'm starting to think maybe troll posts,especially when both just joined today,and both have a 2012.
Seems mighty fishy to me,if ya'll's asking me

5.7 with 6.4 cam and intake makes no bottom end

I have a 2012 ram 5.7 with 120k miles I installed an SRT 6.4 cam kit with MDS delete from AMS Racing. Lifters, timing kit, etc. I also purchased a used 6.4 truck intake manifold with 6.4 injectors. I installed Texas Speed and Performance long tube 2" primary headers and cats. I had a tuner set...

www.ramforum.com

 

[mrp2112]

well i can tell you that im not a troll i have a 2012 dodge ram with a new rebuilt 5.7 hemi with a 6.4 cam LOOKING for help please step a side and let others help me

 

[mrp2112]

back to business so if you think i need a tune why and what do anyone suggest

 

[HemiLonestar]

well i can tell you that im not a troll i have a 2012 dodge ram with a new rebuilt 5.7 hemi with a 6.4 cam LOOKING for help please step a side and let others help me

Better grow thicker skin and a sense of humor if you want interaction here lol.

 

[mrp2112]

Pics of my motor

 

[CanRebel]

As @Wild one said above you need a tune.
Can't just make change like that without it. Everything is controlled by computer/software.

Look at HP Tune software. Then you would likely have to pay Tuner. You can find local or remote people.

 

[mrp2112]

my lifter turned sideways and gracefully removed about 3/16 of material on #5 intake hows that for thicker skin and a sense of humor OO did you see my new hockey stick hehehe you cant see me right now but im rolling around my front yard lmao

 

[mrp2112]

ok thanks for the info and help im leaning to a diablo sport tuner i3 and im going to look a hp tuner too thanks to canRebel&wild one . as for Hemilonestar you can learn from theses two guys these guys are vary helpfull ps im working on my sence of humor

 

[Flip-er]

ok thanks for the info and help im leaning to a diablo sport tuner i3 and im going to look a hp tuner too thanks to canRebel&wild one . as for Hemilonestar you can learn from theses two guys these guys are vary helpfull ps im working on my sence of humor

Welcome to the group

 

[HemiLonestar]

as for Hemilonestar you can learn from theses two guys these guys are vary helpfull ps im working on my sence of humor

I'm a mechanic, soooo......also, I'm not the one who did all the facebook research, put a 392 car cam in a truck, didn't tune it, etc etc but you go on, boy lol.
Also humbly suggest actual typing and not using talk to text.....
Did you use a 392 cam and enginetech lifters....?

back to business so if you think i need a tune why and what do anyone suggest

The heart of the engine is the cam, the brain the PCM. The electronic parameters within the PCM are based on the mechanical parameters of the cam and VVT. Making a significant change to one requires a significant change to match with the other if you want everything to work correctly.

 

[mrp2112]

no i will post the cam number for you 05037379BC from summit as for talk text nope can't you tell im typing do to i'm vary bad at it, still working on my sense of humor hehe

 

[mrp2112]

so the 392 stock cam should work in a stock 5.7 hemi as i was informed car or truck so now i have sent email to HP TUNES waiting for a reply thanks for playing nice with me Hemilonestar hehehe stil working on my humor side inprogress any tips

 

[Wild one]

so the 392 stock cam should work in a stock 5.7 hemi as i was informed car or truck so now i have sent email to HP TUNES waiting for a reply thanks for playing nice with me Hemilonestar hehehe stil working on my humor side inprogress any tips

Even tuned,it still won't have a hell'va lot of bottem end torque,above 3500 rpm it'll start to pull good,but it'll be lazy until it's above that.Either swap in a better truck cam,or stick a 4,000 stall convertor behind the engine. That cam is designed for a car that weighes a good 1,000lbs less then your truck,and has a manual transmission behind it,it's not going to work great in a truck with a 5/6 speed automatic.You might want to back off on Hemilonestar,as he's pretty good with these trucks,and is a guy you might want to listen to,but he doesn't have much patience like alot of us for smart-ass comments.

 

[HemiLonestar]

You might want to back off on Hemilonestar,as he's pretty good with these trucks,and is a guy you might want to listen to,but he doesn't have much patience like alot of us for smart-ass comments.

Pot meet kettle lol. I have alot of patience....I put up with you, don't I?

so the 392 stock cam should work in a stock 5.7 hemi as i was informed car or truck so now i have sent email to HP TUNES waiting for a reply thanks for playing nice with me Hemilonestar hehehe stil working on my humor side inprogress any tips

Even tuned,it still won't have a hell'va lot of bottem end torque,above 3500 rpm it'll start to pull good,but it'll be lazy until it's above that.Either swap in a better truck cam,or stick a 4,000 stall convertor behind the engine. That cam is designed for a car that weighes a good 1,000lbs less then your truck,and has a manual transmission behind it,it's not going to work great in a truck with a 5/6 speed automatic.

The cam you used is very similar to the one in my 392; it's a little more since it's a stick cam vs the auto cam, but the characteristics are pretty much the same. Like he said, the punch is mid-range to high rpm and made to work with a bit more displacement and a lot less weight. The car transmissions also have a bit more 1st gear than the crap RFE you have so even down low I can effortlessly roast 295's. If you insist on sticking with that cam, either a converter swap (as suggested) a whole lot more gearing (like 4.56's) or even a trans swap (it would work much better with a ZF trans) but it is likely you still wouldn't be completely happy with it. There are better options out there, usually people with 5.7 cars who want to delete MDS and/or need a new cam use that cam since they're generally cheap (or at least used to be, nothing is cheap anymore) but even then, there are better options.