The future looks pretty sad.

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HEMI: I also find, if my tool batteries get too hot, like out in extreme heat, they will not charge till they cool a bit. You probably not got that issue in MA< but in TX U can, you gotta remember to not rest your battery operated tools sitting on a bench in the sun when the thermometer jumps high.
You know, now that you mention it I have had that happen as well. I did exactly that, left my drill out in the sun in July for a couple hours. Went you use it and it acted like it was dying so I put it on the charger. Came back 10 mins later and the charger was flashing the light for error.

So essentially, lithium batteries are efficient at 70*. Nice.
 

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They can't pass the cost on to consumers because consumers won't pay it. The price needed to make them profitable simply kills the demand. There was a fair amount of interest in the Lightning when it was supposed to launch at around $41k. Then they raised the prices on various models/trims some $20k each.

At least Ford has committed to keeping the V8 Mustang going.



GM's gone 'tarded. Again. I've no brand loyalty and have owned more GMs than anything else, but haven't bought one since my 2011 Camaro SS. LS3/6M, such a great combination.

I will say the new midsize ZR2 has some interesting off road tech. The cameras underneath and the ones that look at your wheels so you can spot yourself is pretty slick. But their cars and SUVs? Meh on white bread toast.

Have you checked out the new GM Duramax 3.0L diesel? Pretty nice setup.
 

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If I were to get a small diesel in a pickup right now it would be that one. The ONLY thing I don't like about it is the belt driven oil pump...

Yah - they know what they did.....they upped the warranty on it to try to give us the feels. I just can't understand why you make a nice engine and screw up one component.

Good thing Hemi Gen III didn't do that. *cough*
 

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It looks good on paper lol

I test drove one last summer. It was smooth and unimpressive, I guess as a diesel should be these days. Very, very quiet. Then again, I can't hear anymore, but still - shocking to a guy that grew up with pre-HPCR fueling.

The mileage is outstanding, the I6 architecture is simple. The only thing that concerns me is the overly complicated mutliple cooling systems they put on the thing. It's a mess. The belt oil pump doesn't scare me so much - engines have perfected belt OHC's for years.

That, and the Chevy still rides like a dump truck from the 1980's. They've done nothing with improving the ride. Nothing. Didn't matter when we were 30, but 60+ it gets nasty.
 
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I thought U were on the US side, or did you sneak over the border?

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No sir I canadian... Unfortunately sometimes haha.

I have not really done anything with the 48-11 but I have trx guys wanting me to build a switch and the t case is pretty much the same. Funny spend 160k Canadian on a trx and have a crappy t case with clutches and Dodge programming that doesn't handle the power. I know of 4 that need t cases.
 

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No sir I canadian... Unfortunately sometimes haha.

I have not really done anything with the 48-11 but I have trx guys wanting me to build a switch and the t case is pretty much the same. Funny spend 160k Canadian on a trx and have a crappy t case with clutches and Dodge programming that doesn't handle the power. I know of 4 that need t cases.
OK, just a wondering. Not sure if I got the 48-11/12, has the Auto 4, but not matter.
 

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You know, now that you mention it I have had that happen as well. I did exactly that, left my drill out in the sun in July for a couple hours. Went you use it and it acted like it was dying so I put it on the charger. Came back 10 mins later and the charger was flashing the light for error.

So essentially, lithium batteries are efficient at 70*. Nice.
YUP, when I am using a lot outside when real warm or let set out, I have to literally take them into house (that hot, U know AC on) and let them cool before they will accept charge. Sometimes, if I really work them, they will get hot from the battery reaction properties and have to cool a little also. It is not just the cold, LMAO.
 
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YUP, when I am using a lot outside when real warm or let set out, I have to literally take them into house (that hot, U know AC on) and let them cool before they will accept charge. Sometimes, if I really work them, they will get hot from the battery reaction properties and have to cool a little also. It is not just the cold, LMAO.
So what your saying is these batteries are like philosophers? Good in but absolutely useless for practical life? :p
 

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So what your saying is these batteries are like philosophers? Good in but absolutely useless for practical life? :p
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, never thought of a battery in a Freudian concept or Socrates for that matter, roflmao. FTR, not wife's mare, stock photo.



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Another piece of a sad future.

Been harping on this for awhile. The issues of EV vs ICE are a red herring from where the real fight is taking place. Connected cars, remote control of connected cars, and onboard AI control of cars. The propulsion system is irrelevant if your car can be disabled by a computer program that thinks you are drunk or sleepy or by a bank error. For some reason it's not as sexy a topic as EVs though and threads on it always die early on. The technology is already here and already cheap, legislation is catching on, and the risk of this being mandated in new vehicle sales our lifetimes is significant.
 
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Been harping on this for awhile. The issues of EV vs ICE are a red herring from where the real fight is taking place. Connected cars, remote control of connected cars, and onboard AI control of cars. The propulsion system is irrelevant if your car can be disabled by a computer program that thinks you are drunk or sleepy or by a bank error. For some reason it's not as sexy a topic as EVs though and threads on it always die early on. The technology is already here and already cheap, legislation is catching on, and the risk of this being mandated in new vehicle sales our lifetimes is significant.
I mean as the consumer I can just disable it. Or Atleast with my electronic knowledge I can or hardwire things to work.
 

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Nevermind the absolute control over us that EVs gives the powers that be.

Don't want people driving? Send a signal and your EV wont move.

Want to impose a curfew? Easy as sending a signal to the EV.
 

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Been harping on this for awhile. The issues of EV vs ICE are a red herring from where the real fight is taking place. Connected cars, remote control of connected cars, and onboard AI control of cars. The propulsion system is irrelevant if your car can be disabled by a computer program that thinks you are drunk or sleepy or by a bank error. For some reason it's not as sexy a topic as EVs though and threads on it always die early on. The technology is already here and already cheap, legislation is catching on, and the risk of this being mandated in new vehicle sales our lifetimes is significant.
Pretty sure it is law that all 2026 models have to have the breathalyzer to start the car - if not nationwide, at least some states. Part of Biden's Infrastructure and Jobs Act.
 
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Pretty sure it is law that all 2026 models have to have the breathalyzer to start the car - if not nationwide, at least some states. Part of Biden's Infrastructure and Jobs Act.
I thought it was we were all innocent until proven guilty? Not the other way around. Let's make drinking and sales of alcohol liiegal instead of forcing every auto manufacturer and vehicle owner to suffer for others poor decisions. Jeeeeeeeez
 

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Pretty sure it is law that all 2026 models have to have the breathalyzer to start the car - if not nationwide, at least some states. Part of Biden's Infrastructure and Jobs Act.

Not exactly. That's the simplified (and wrong) version floating around social media.

The law is funding a study at this point, there is no hard start date and no specific mandated technology. NHTSA has 3 years to research, test, and verify viability of different technologies. Once the study phase is done, whatever recommendations are made would go into effect in another 3 years, plus or minus.

So, there is no way 2026 models will have the tech, there is no clear idea what the tech will be, but the needle is moving in the direction of onboard computers monitoring you somehow for both intoxication and distraction/sleepiness and then doing *something* to stop you. That something is not yet decided either, but options include taking control from you, pulling you to the side of the road, and activating emergency flashers. Note many vehicles already have an IR camera watching you to make sure your eyes are on the road when you're using the inaptly named 'self driving' technology in the vehicle.

It's almost certainly *not* going to be a breathalyzer in the same style that convicted DUI offenders sometimes are mandated to get. That only disrupts the ignition and once the car is started, it's out of the equation. No, this technology is mandated to *constantly* monitor you. Then the computer, with no input other than it's programming, gets to decide if you keep driving or not.
 
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