Bye Bye 2/4 Drop, How Do I Pull This Off Guys?

[MarshRam]

I've decided at this point in time I will likely never rebuild an old classic muscle. I'm keeping my 2012 RAM and it will be a classic muscle when I'm dead. With that said, it's completely stupid bolt on modified, not much else I can do. 13.0 on the 1/4. Here's where I see my most potential future choices and I want to enjoy both worlds, but not set Guinness World Records, just have fun. 1) 2/4 drop has to go. I would love a 5/7, but 3/5 might be more appropriate, TBD. 2) I would love this thing to slam to the ground or near it when I park it (bags). 3) I will want to take it to the strip and toast that 13.0 (supercharger and everything else involved for that prospect incoming, a different discussion). I will want to race but at the same time roll 90's SoCal style around town, just well rounded fun! I don't know jack about lowering a RAM and especially not about bagging. Starting with lowering, how do I make all this balance out and work?

 

[Wild one]

I've decided at this point in time I will likely never rebuild an old classic muscle. I'm keeping my 2012 RAM and it will be a classic muscle when I'm dead. With that said, it's completely stupid bolt on modified, not much else I can do. 13.0 on the 1/4. Here's where I see my most potential future choices and I want to enjoy both worlds, but not set Guinness World Records, just have fun. 1) 2/4 drop has to go. I would love a 5/7, but 3/5 might be more appropriate, TBD. 2) I would love this thing to slam to the ground or near it when I park it (bags). 3) I will want to take it to the strip and toast that 13.0 (supercharger and everything else involved for that prospect incoming, a different discussion). I will want to race but at the same time roll 90's SoCal style around town, just well rounded fun! I don't know jack about lowering a RAM and especially not about bagging. Starting with lowering, how do I make all this balance out and work?View attachment 585267

Before you do anything,you probably should swap an 8 speed into it.

 

[Bigskyroadglide]

Do the ihc 3/5 or 4/6 kit order the 3/5 you can make it 4/6 by leaving one Part out it you want.

If you're thinking supercharged, I'd suggest you go truck 6.4, you'll be money ahead with less hassle.

I have a supercharged RCSB. Go 6.4 and don't look back

 

[GeauxinUp]

You sure you want to go down this rabbit hole?? Haha
Better be ready to open up that wallet, hp ain’t cheap in these mopars

 

[MarshRam]

Do the ihc 3/5 or 4/6 kit order the 3/5 you can make it 4/6 by leaving one Part out it you want.

If you're thinking supercharged, I'd suggest you go truck 6.4, you'll be money ahead with less hassle.

I have a supercharged RCSB. Go 6.4 and don't look back

Thanks. What I don't know is if I bag it, do I need the new drop or just keep what I have. I already have a 4/6 drop and would end up going with the 3/5 if needed. Prefer to drive with a 3/5 drop, but would love to drop lower when parked. As for the HP gain, I have been watching Moe's builds with the 6.4. It's under consideration.

 

[MarshRam]

You sure you want to go down this rabbit hole?? Haha
Better be ready to open up that wallet, hp ain’t cheap in these mopars

I'm already in the rabbit hole with this truck . Since I'm keeping it forever, I might as well finish it off!

 

[MarshRam]

Before you do anything, you probably should swap an 8 speed into it.

That would be nice and agree. However, making it a little bit faster is the objective for now. In a few years I might (most likely ) change my mind and do that. I need to stay focused on the drop for now and how all that will handle if I want to take it to the strip. I'm starting with the cheapest thing, get it lowered, but the setup needs to work if I take it to the strip, regardless of the level of enhanced performance route I may take in the future. I don't want to take stuff out I had previously invested in if I can help it to make something else work later. It seems logical to me that if you bag a vehicle, what does the size of drop matter at all? Wouldn't it be it's own kit with option of drop you want at any given moment? Like I said, I don't know jack about bagging, but if I want to drop it to the ground parked, that's my option. Don't know anything about bagged vehicles and handling on the track either. Hopefully this better explains what I'm trying to accomplish!

 

[GeauxinUp]

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That would be nice and agree. However, making it a little bit faster is the objective for now. In a few years I might (most likely ) change my mind and do that. I need to stay focused on the drop for now and how all that will handle if I want to take it to the strip. I'm starting with the cheapest thing, get it lowered, but the setup needs to work if I take it to the strip, regardless of the level of enhanced performance route I may take in the future. I don't want to take stuff out I had previously invested in if I can help it to make something else work later. It seems logical to me that if you bag a vehicle, what does the size of drop matter at all? Wouldn't it be it's own kit with option of drop you want at any given moment? Like I said, I don't know jack about bagging, but if I want to drop it to the ground parked, that's my option. Don't know anything about bagged vehicles and handling on the track either. Hopefully this better explains what I'm trying to accomplish!

8 speed will make it faster.
Sorry can’t help with the lowering stuff

 

[Bigskyroadglide]

Thanks. What I don't know is if I bag it, do I need the new drop or just keep what I have. I already have a 4/6 drop and would end up going with the 3/5 if needed. Prefer to drive with a 3/5 drop, but would love to drop lower when parked. As for the HP gain, I have been watching Moe's builds with the 6.4. It's under consideration.

I wouldn't bag it, in my humble opinion. The 3/5 ihc kit is proven and rides nicely. If you go 4/6 it's also proven and rides nicely.

I've put over 45k miles on.my ihc kit and my largest problem was blowing out the control arm bushings in core 4x4 rear control arms.

I you want to bag it, it will be a lot of effort and it's irreversible. I can put my truck back to stock in a weekend

If your going to keep it as long as you say, cutting up the truck for bags is well, a big deal

 

[Wild one]

That would be nice and agree. However, making it a little bit faster is the objective for now. In a few years I might (most likely ) change my mind and do that. I need to stay focused on the drop for now and how all that will handle if I want to take it to the strip. I'm starting with the cheapest thing, get it lowered, but the setup needs to work if I take it to the strip, regardless of the level of enhanced performance route I may take in the future. I don't want to take stuff out I had previously invested in if I can help it to make something else work later. It seems logical to me that if you bag a vehicle, what does the size of drop matter at all? Wouldn't it be it's own kit with option of drop you want at any given moment? Like I said, I don't know jack about bagging, but if I want to drop it to the ground parked, that's my option. Don't know anything about bagged vehicles and handling on the track either. Hopefully this better explains what I'm trying to accomplish!

You need suspension seperation to plant the rear tires,so you need to keep some travel in the rear,so it can force the tires down and into the pavement. You do not want it to squat and drag the rear bumper on launch,as that just means you're removing forces that push the tires down and will help it hook.You actually want the rear bumper to go up on launch,not down. If you slam the truck on the ground,you're defeating what you want it do at the track.

 

[MarshRam]

I wouldn't bag it, in my humble opinion. The 3/5 ihc kit is proven and rides nicely. If you go 4/6 it's also proven and rides nicely.

I've put over 45k miles on.my ihc kit and my largest problem was blowing out the control arm bushings in core 4x4 rear control arms.

I you want to bag it, it will be a lot of effort and it's irreversible. I can put my truck back to stock in a weekend

If your going to keep it as long as you say, cutting up the truck for bags is well, a big deal

Thanks for the bagging info. I already have a 2/4 Belltech drop on it, no complaints. I just want it a little lower and 3/5 or 4/6 seems the range I'm looking for. As for bagging, I wouldn't be driving around with it low, keep it in the 3/5 range. I would like to just be able to drop it to the ground when parked, that's about it. I'm not too concerned about long term. If for any reason way down the line I want to sell it, it is what it is. Otherwise, one of my kids inherits it.

 

[MarshRam]

You need suspension seperation to plant the rear tires,so you need to keep some travel in the rear,so it can force the tires down and into the pavement. You do not want it to squat and drag the rear bumper on launch,as that just means you're removing forces that push the tires down and will help it hook.You actually want the rear bumper to go up on launch,not down. If you slam the truck on the ground,you're defeating what you want it do at the track.

Yeah, I wouldn't want to race it like that. So are we saying if bagged, I wouldn't be able to adjust the height to race? I was kinda thinking the bags would give me the option to lift the rear a little higher to accommodate for that rear downforce. I guess I'm confused. For clarity, I want front and back to be able to drop as low as possible, pretty much only when parked. I'm not into that rear soggy bottom look.

 

[Wild one]

Yeah, I wouldn't want to race it like that. So are we saying if bagged, I wouldn't be able to adjust the height to race? I was kinda thinking the bags would give me the option to lift the rear a little higher to accommodate for that rear downforce. I guess I'm confused. For clarity, I want front and back to be able to drop as low as possible, pretty much only when parked. I'm not into that rear soggy bottom look.

Make up your mind do you want looks or do you want it to hook. You won't find bags on any drag oriented vehicle.You can make a 2/4 drop hook,go much lower then that and all you've created is a spin monster,so you have to decide where your prioties lie.

 

[MarshRam]

Make up your mind do you want looks or do you want it to hook. You won't find bags on any drag oriented vehicle.You can make a 2/4 drop hook,go much lower then that and all you've created is a spin monster,so you have to decide where your prioties lie.

THANK YOU, that's information I'm looking for. Bags would only be for a parked drop. That is the last on the list of enjoying the truck, far less important than anything else and quite frankly the only thing on the list I am okay doing without. As far as that is concerned, questions is; "how is racing with bags?". We can't always have it all in one box. I believe you have answered my question. Thanks again!

 

[olyelr]

I havnt lowered anything or done any vehicle racing, so take my thoughts for what they are worth. Im just spitballing from my noggin here.

But it just seems to me that bags would work fine…raise it up if you need it high at the strip, then lower it down to wherever else you desire it whenever you desire it.

Bags travel up and down just as a coil springs do, right? So why wouldnt that work at the strip?

All these new modern vehicles are riding around on nothing but bags and they ride great and handle fabulous.

It sounds like most people dont do it strictly for racing per say, but does that mean it wouldnt work?

 

[Bigskyroadglide]

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[olyelr]

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Wowzaweezers. I wonder what the height range is for those kits.

 

[MarshRam]

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Thanks @Bigskyroadglide. Nice ride. Is that a 3/5 drop on 20's?

 

[Bigskyroadglide]

Thanks for the comments.

That's an IHC 4/6 on 22s.

Bilstein 4600s front Bilstein 5125s rear, with rear shock extensions to keep the 5125s straight up and down

Core 4x4 upper lower rear control arms, panhard bar, with a road master 2500 rear sway bar.

It corners like it's on rails.

Here's a partial shot of the truck with 20s.