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[Wild one]

Easily said, and probably easily done, but...

Assuming AlphaOBD is the go-to interface for this and some other features as well, I would be starting from zero to make this happen.

My question is what's the list of items and ballpark cost.
My 2014 with 106,000 miles is factory stock except for LED cargo and reverse lights. I really like the idea of a 750RPM idle, I've used the pedal to get there and can barely tell the difference.

For any interface I have an Android phone and a Windows 10/11 laptop. Everything else I would have to "procure".

For a 14 if you're not interested in really tuning it,you could pick up an older T1000 Diablo (make sure it's unmarried) and use it to disable MDS ,up the idle rpm and you can also use it to remove the speed limiter. It'll have a couple canned tunes that you could also try out,they aren't as good as a custom tune,but they'll work for a stock truck for a slight bump in power. HP is the better option,but is more money,and if you don't know what you're doing,can get you into trouble if you start experimenting

 

[ramffml]

2014 is fairly straightforward as your ECU is not locked like 2015 and up. So it would be HPTuner obd dongle ($400), free software download, ecu/tcu credits ($50 each, 2 credits for ecu, 4 credits if you have the 8 speed), and go from there. Either you can learn to edit the files yourself, or pay for tuning (worth it IMO) and ask as part of the tuning to raise the idle speed.

Do you need HP Tuner's specific OBD dongle? I just bought a bluetooth one and it works with Jscan.

And second question, what's the best source of unlocked ECU's?

 

[danielmid]

Do you need HP Tuner's specific OBD dongle? I just bought a bluetooth one and it works with Jscan.

And second question, what's the best source of unlocked ECU's?

For the reading/tuning yes, you need their MPVI. I bought the ECU from HPTuners direct, they can unlock or provide a new one. You do have to buy the dongle first and provide a stock read file so they can program the new ECU and it will drop in and run just like your current one. I've heard the Diablo ECUs don't play nice, and I've seen other people use eBay stock ECUs to send in for reprogramming.

 

[danielmid]

Do you need HP Tuner's specific OBD dongle? I just bought a bluetooth one and it works with Jscan.

And second question, what's the best source of unlocked ECU's?

Also for a 2019 you need an additional security module, https://www.hptuners.com/product/dodge-2018-smart-access-cable/

 

[Wild one]

Do you need HP Tuner's specific OBD dongle? I just bought a bluetooth one and it works with Jscan.

And second question, what's the best source of unlocked ECU's?

I bought a second PCM from the dealer for the wifes 2019 Challenger and sent it to HP to be unlocked,but there's alot of differant options.You could send your stock one in to be unlocked,but then your truck is down for a bit,or you could pick up a used PCM and send it in.CCMR in Edmonton can unlock them if you don't want to deal with the border delays.

 

[NCRaineman]

Just set your idle FFS. It shows lots of you arent High Performance Ram pages. Thinking the HC oil pump is somehow a savior... lol...

I find it interesting that "don't idle" or "adjust your idle" are commonly quoted for prevention of cam/lifter failure. Yet I can't help think of all the police cruisers in the country that spend most of their day idling. They don't all destroy engines.

IMO the problem is overrepresented anyways. It's the typical negative bias forums have. People don't come online and report "Oh, another week with no problems." They only tend to show up when there is a problem. As much as Hemi was spread around the Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/Ram lineup over the past twenty years if there was really such a fatal flaw it would have been fixed.

 

[Wild one]

I find it interesting that "don't idle" or "adjust your idle" are commonly quoted for prevention of cam/lifter failure. Yet I can't help think of all the police cruisers in the country that spend most of their day idling. They don't all destroy engines.

IMO the problem is overrepresented anyways. It's the typical negative bias forums have. People don't come online and report "Oh, another week with no problems." They only tend to show up when there is a problem. As much as Hemi was spread around the Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/Ram lineup over the past twenty years if there was really such a fatal flaw it would have been fixed.

Cop cars are one of the worst for eating cams.I don't know where you're getting your info from,but it's wrong about police vehicles.

 

[DILLIGAF]

The oil pressure #s dont lie.

Takes 2 seconds to see it on HP tuners.

Dont need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that 10psi gain for a stetting change that takes 3 seconds is the first MOD you should do.

 

[ramffml]

Also for a 2019 you need an additional security module, https://www.hptuners.com/product/dodge-2018-smart-access-cable/

I also have the tazer dt which comes with it's own security module, will that work with HP's stuff?

 

[danielmid]

I also have the tazer dt which comes with it's own security module, will that work with HP's stuff?

No clue and I haven't read anyone else talk about the module for tuning specifically.

 

[CanRebel]

I also have the tazer dt which comes with it's own security module, will that work with HP's stuff?

You could try it.

I have HP Cable, and ZAuto cable and ZAuto Module. All three work. Not sure Tazer DT will, could affect settings.

 

[Riccochet]

The oil pressure #s dont lie.

Takes 2 seconds to see it on HP tuners.

Dont need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that 10psi gain for a stetting change that takes 3 seconds is the first MOD you should do.

The cam lobes and lifter rollers are not lubricated via any oil passages where increased oil pressure would be a benefit. They're lubricated via crank sling. Crank sling takes place via engine RPM's. So, yeah, a slight increase in idle RPM's may increase the amount of oil slung up to the cam and lifters. Might.

 

[Wild one]

The cam lobes and lifter rollers are not lubricated via any oil passages where increased oil pressure would be a benefit. They're lubricated via crank sling. Crank sling takes place via engine RPM's. So, yeah, a slight increase in idle RPM's may increase the amount of oil slung up to the cam and lifters. Might.

The stock idle rpm is roughly 500 to 550 rpm,so upping it to 700+ does throw a fair bit more oil onto the cam lobes

 

[DILLIGAF]

The stock idle rpm is roughly 500 to 550 rpm,so upping it to 700+ does throw a fair bit more oil onto the cam lobes

Hey stop it with your logic that **** is contagious .

 

[danielmid]

Idle is a breeze to adjust with HP

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Man I have way more options to check for idle speed lol

 

[Wheezy23]

Saw that same video a while ago but will have to research more on the splash vs pressure lubrication to the cam and lifters. On a side note and something I noticed on my last couple oil changes, the dealership fills my oil pretty damn high on the dip stick and I’m now wondering if they’re doing that on purpose to help with the splash lubrication. Can anyone else speak to this?

 

[Wild one]

Saw that same video a while ago but will have to research more on the splash vs pressure lubrication to the cam and lifters. On a side note and something I noticed on my last couple oil changes, the dealership fills my oil pretty damn high on the dip stick and I’m now wondering if they’re doing that on purpose to help with the splash lubrication. Can anyone else speak to this?

A 1/2 a quart over full isn't going to hurt it,but i don't think it'll give a big increase in splash lubrication as there's a windage tray between the crank and the oil in the pan.There is "no" pressurized oil fed to the cam lobes or lifter wheel,as they're out in the open in the crankcase.If you pull the oil pan,you can look up from the bottom and see the cam lobes. The VVT tunnel blocks alot of the splash lube to the cam,but some of the oil flung off the crank,still makes it to the cam lobes. This article is on the 6.4,but it has a decent pic of the block from the bottom,showing the VVT tunnel and piston squirters the 6.4's utilize, you can see the cam bearings just above the VVT tunnel.

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[Dave Haddon]

I am mesmerized and confused by all this upping the idle talk.When i jumpinto WARLOCK he typically is revving about 1000-1100 for a few seconds then reduces to about 700ish before I put him into reverse to exit the garage. At long lights I know I will be sitting for 40 seconds I shut him off. Am I messing up? I Use PUP 5/20 and Lubeguard and Wix filter

 

[zrock]

Cop cars are one of the worst for eating cams.I don't know where you're getting your info from,but it's wrong about police vehicles.

Emergency veh are suppose to have a idle up solenoid that they engage when sitting to keep things charged up that most of them do not use. One of your fire deps just had to change their engine and were looking at putting one in.. I was thinking the same thing since on my 15 i think i have to have their computer unlocked before i can tune up the idle.

 

[Wild one]

Emergency veh are suppose to have a idle up solenoid that they engage when sitting to keep things charged up that most of them do not use. One of your fire deps just had to change their engine and were looking at putting one in.. I was thinking the same thing since on my 15 i think i have to have their computer unlocked before i can tune up the idle.

I think you're stuck in the 90's when things used a cable throttle,then you could run a high idle solenoid,but on drive by wire systems,i don't think a solenoid really works,you have to go through the computor to up the idle rpm.There is no external mechanical connection to the throttle blade on a drive by wire system,it's run by an electric motor through a couple gears.