Rear tires spinning

zafo · Jun 11, 2024

Hi all. I have hemi 6.4 2W rear drive. Recently I took my 24 feet power boat for summer fishing the first time. The boat ramp was quite sandy. Not surprisingly while trying to pull up my trailer out of the water, the tires started to spin. I was prepared so I put my snow chains on both tires. But instead of cranking the ground surface, both chains dig a big hole in the sand, making the situation a lot worse. After several attempts I gave up and left the boat in the water to pick it up with a friend's 4 wheel drive some other time.
Is there a magical solution to this?? I am happy with the truck except this was the worst time that is forcing me to exchange with a 4-wheel vehicle.
All the boat ramps around me are soft surface, not concrete or similar. That is driving me nuts..
Any suggestions?
Thanks

BWL · Jun 11, 2024

Wider rear tires with lower pressure would help or tow hooks on the front if you can get some help from a friendly fellow boater as it sounds like you're good until the weight of the boat is added to the trailer.

RamDiver · Jun 11, 2024

What make, model, and size are the tires?

If you have all season street tires, you may be SOL.
If you have tires with a bit of tread, as mentioned, you could try dropping the pressure.

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mikeru · Jun 11, 2024

You could also try throwing some weight in the bed.

DA67Goatman · Jun 11, 2024

Winch?

diymirage · Jun 11, 2024

Sell that pavement queen and get a real 4wd truck

Daw14 · Jun 12, 2024

Add a few hundred pounds in your bed then try it out , it’s cheaper then a new truck.

RamDiver · Jun 12, 2024

Daw14 said:
Add a few hundred pounds in your bed then try it out , it’s cheaper then a new truck.

And switching the tires to BFG KO2s or equivalent. Pack a small compressor and deflate tires if you're still challenged for traction. I wouldn't upgrade the truck just to retrieve boats. LOL

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Tulecreeper · Jun 12, 2024

Try disabling your traction control before you pull out. <for some reason that sounds kind of sexy>

Randy Grant · Jun 12, 2024

off road sand boards

zafo · Jun 13, 2024

DA67Goatman said:
Winch?

I cannot detach the trailer from the hitch, and manually place it under the boat. It is too heavy.

zafo · Jun 13, 2024

Randy Grant said:
off road sand boards

I used them in mud once (not sand), they were about 30 inches long each, and the tire kicked it off right away.

zafo · Jun 13, 2024

Daw14 said:
Add a few hundred pounds in your bed then try it out , it’s cheaper then a new truck.

I am sure that would help, but that means carrying them on the bed all the time, because they are too heavy. I use the truck bed for other things you know..

zafo · Jun 13, 2024

BWL said:
Wider rear tires with lower pressure would help or tow hooks on the front if you can get some help from a friendly fellow boater as it sounds like you're good until the weight of the boat is added to the trailer.

Wider tires? I thought wider tires could decrease the traction. My tires are LT275/70R18 and the thread situation so so..

zafo · Jun 13, 2024

RamDiver said:
And switching the tires to BFG KO2s or equivalent. Pack a small compressor and deflate tires if you're still challenged for traction. I wouldn't upgrade the truck just to retrieve boats. LOL

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I am seriously replacing the truck just for this reason, as the last resort. I will try the suggestions posted here before that though.. Is the following a good suggestion? https://www.walmart.com/ip/BFGoodri...mifgaWzDpRL4RqWAivyPlpR4ZLal02SIaApCKEALw_wcB

BWL · Jun 13, 2024

zafo said:
Wider tires? I thought wider tires could decrease the traction. My tires are LT275/70R18 and the thread situation so so..

On sand more contact surface lowers the ground pressure and helps keep the truck from sinking in the sand. Lower tire pressure and wider tires both increase the contact patch to help keep you from sinking. Having the 18s should help as well vs the 20s as more sidewall is better with the tires aired down.

zafo · Jun 13, 2024

Tulecreeper said:
Try disabling your traction control before you pull out. <for some reason that sounds kind of sexy>

Actually I never used that one. I changed gears but no change. Is that the left button in the picture? What does it do, prevent spinning??

BWL · Jun 13, 2024

zafo said:
Actually I never used that one. I changed gears but no change. Is that the left button in the picture? What does it do, prevent spinning??

That's the correct button. Turning it off allows you to spin. In certain low traction situations the traction control takes away your momentum when you'd actually be able to make it if you let the wheels spin a bit and keep moving. Helps in snow and mud, but not sure on sand.

Docwagon1776 · Jun 13, 2024

zafo said:
Wider tires? I thought wider tires could decrease the traction. My tires are LT275/70R18 and the thread situation so so..

In general: Wider tires help you 'float' and stay on top. Narrower tires help you dig through the mud/sand to get to the solid bottom. If there's no solid bottom to get to...

Traction boards can help you get moving and stay on top. Accelerate slowly and build momentum, then hope that momentum keeps you from sinking. It's getting rolling that's the hardest.

If you're kicking out the traction board, you're using them wrong for that surface. Dig a bit in front of the tire, insert the board in front of the tire in that hole, then pack some mud/sand/snow in front of the board so it is slightly 'ramped up' instead of laying flat. Then the back end will be forced down into the surface vs straight back and kick out. Still need to go slow, no tire spin.

G-Ride990 · Jun 13, 2024

It sounds like you need a 4x4 truck. If you were on a concrete ramp, might be different. But starting in sand with a bunch of dead weight that only gets heavier as you pull it... Yikes!

Don't think you can blame the truck at that point other than only being 2wd.

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