2027 Ram 1500 REV: A First Look At The Production-Ready Extended Range Truck

https://insideevs.com/news/784772/2027-ram-1500-rev-range-extender-ev-pickup-production-version/

 

[Bigskyroadglide]

Year 1 purchasers, good luck. Hopefully it comes with AAA

 

[EdGs]

So the electric part has 150 mile range, then the gas 'generator' gives it the extra 500 miles.

Nope.

 

[ronheater70]

gee, wonder if it uses a Samsung battery.

 

[TRK_GANG74]

Mobile fire starter! Hope the battery is not made in china! Don’t park it near your home! I would bet those payload and towing capicity numbers are a lie and way off!

 

[Grams]

It Touts a “145 mile electric range” …with a gas engine to attempt to find a charging station when it dies!

The problems for EV owners who don’t have a residential charging statipon….(apartment dwellers…renters… or town-housers, etc)…. they use the last 1/4 of the elect-range searching for a charging station that WORKS….and Is NOT OCCUPIED….so they can waste another 45 minutes charging….IF the Charging-Station doesn’t S L O W to a lower-than-advertised-rate of charge.

The owner I talked to got tired of getting only partial charges before his schedule required him to Abandon the charging station to get back to work!

He said that he CAN’T WAIT for his Lease to End…. hoping to get a genuine fossil-fuel vehicle for his sales-route before regulations require All vehicles to be hybrids.

 

[Jimmy07]

I’m surprised that since we’ve know everything about how the Ram 1500 extended range ev works for almost 2 1/2 years now, the people commenting here still have no clue how it works.

 

[Grams]

I’m surprised that since we’ve know everything about how the Ram 1500 extended range ev works for almost 2 1/2 years now, the people commenting here still have no clue how it works.

Perhaps you should enlighten us… I thought it had wheels that rolled….

 

[kt4hx]

Year 1 purchasers, good luck. Hopefully it comes with AAA

AAA batteries?

 

[Bigskyroadglide]

AAA road side assistance, although batteries might help as well

 

[Docwagon1776]

I’m surprised that since we’ve know everything about how the Ram 1500 extended range ev works for almost 2 1/2 years now, the people commenting here still have no clue how it works.

First day online?

 

[Randy Grant]

I love opinions. They are so much fun, and it seems that changing one, is like changing a diaper. Even if it stinks, nobody wants to do it. And without real world info, we really don't know.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Perhaps you should enlighten us… I thought it had wheels that rolled….

Same way a locomotive does, with the addition of regenerative braking and a storage battery. Well, and it's gas rather than diesel.

Electric always drives the wheels. You get all the benefits of an electric drive in terms of efficiency, simplicity and instant torque. ICE drives the electric motor. You get all the benefits of ease of refueling with a liquid energy dense fuel.

You never *have* to charge the battery by plug in. Supposedly 10 minutes will give you 100 miles of range, but you can drive it on gas forever if you want to.

If they want to get real fancy, each wheel can have it's own motor and can run independently. Then you've got the ability to do things like neutral steer like a tracked vehicle, turning a complete 360 in place. The options for maneuverability that opens up for off road use is pretty damned cool. No more half measures of locking a wheel to drag for "trail turns".

 

[tones2SS]

Oh,...it's electric?!?!?

 

[Grams]

The Losses of conversion from each type locomotion/energy to the other is not efficient at all.

 

[Docwagon1776]

The Losses of conversion from each type locomotion/energy to the other is not efficient at all.

In a vacuum, but look at the overall system vs a single component. Consider the counterbalance of significantly less parasitic drivetrain loss, a motor that can be optimized for a single rpm vs needing a wide powerband, etc. How much energy do you lose as heat for braking vs recapturing it? How much energy could you recapture towing downhill with generative engine braking?

Why do you think locomotives aren't purely diesel? Regenerative brakes on light rail?

Compare the drivetrain loss of a modern automatic vs a modern eCVT transmission (distinct from traditional CVT, which is efficient but garbage for durability) vs direct electric drive.

 

[Grams]

In a vacuum, but look at the overall system vs a single component. Consider the counterbalance of significantly less parasitic drivetrain loss, a motor that can be optimized for a single rpm vs needing a wide powerband, etc.

Why do you think locomotives aren't purely diesel?

Compare the drivetrain loss of a modern automatic vs a modern eCVT transmission (distinct from traditional CVT, which is efficient but garbage for durability) vs direct electric drive.

Because diesel engines lack the necessary torque at low speeds to move such long heavy loads….and the transmission necessary to adapt a diesel to such a load would burn up the 68RFE’s and ZF’s.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Because diesel engines lack the necessary torque at low speeds to move such long heavy loads.

Definitely part of it. No ICE competes with EV for instant torque. Hard to argue it's less efficient when admitting it makes more useable power at a lower rpm with less fuel consumption then spinning the **** out of multiple diesels to do the same work.

Now look at the rest of the questions. Tell me how the total unit results in less energy efficiency.

 

[Grams]

Definitely part of it. No ICE competes with EV for instant torque. Hard to argue it's less efficient when admitting it makes more useable power at a lower rpm with less fuel consumption then spinning the **** out of multiple diesels to do the same work.

Now look at the rest of the questions. Tell me how the total unit results in less energy efficiency.

It’s similar to the over-kill of why submarines run on electric motors….powered by steam….. heated by nuclear reactors.

 

[Docwagon1776]

It’s similar to the over-kill of why submarines run on electric motors….powered by steam….. heated by nuclear reactors.

A buddy of mine was a nuke power plant engineer in the Navy. He's as odd as you'd think someone who spent roughly 15 years on subs would be.

Nukes don't need air to run and electric is quiet. Even the old diesel subs ran an electric motor, IIRC, but had to surface to breathe to recharge the battery. I visited Pearl Harbor last year and the sub memorial plaques were incredible stories.

I don't know if you saw the thread I posted about the Canadian company with the working prototype of a locomotive-style drive semi truck. It was originally designed as a logging truck, regenerative braking saving a lot of fuel, stupid amounts of power instantly, and a no-DEF required diesel power plant. Looks like they did have to go DEF for the diesel generator, and it's still up in the air if it'll need road taxed diesel or not, but it's a very interesting concept.