Blackstone - used oil analysis

[fitteenhundred]

He finally reposted this video.

What BOOST Did To Our 5W-30 Motor Oil...

What does boost do to your oil? Let's visit @EFIUniversity1 to do some dyno testing and take some used oil samples for analysis. After our last visit to EFI ...

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[Burla]

He finally reposted this video.

What BOOST Did To Our 5W-30 Motor Oil...

What does boost do to your oil? Let's visit @EFIUniversity1 to do some dyno testing and take some used oil samples for analysis. After our last visit to EFI ...

youtu.be

pretty amazing, please post in syn thread as well.

 

[Govtman]

Can you post where you have seen these tests?

Engineers Test the WORST Fram Filter

We tested the most popular Fram oil filters to see which one was the best. Is the Fram Extra Guard as bad as they say? Is the New Fram Endurance similar to A...

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Here is 1 test of the different FRAM filters

 

[JHoward]

Ok, I finally received my HEMI's oil report ... at least the TIN is where it should be.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Yikes. Iron and aluminum.

 

[Burla]

Ok, I finally received my HEMI's oil report ... at least the TIN is where it should be.

Yeah what gives? What was different this run? Towing more? Seams like piston wear, was it cold this winter then usual?

 

[JHoward]

Lol, what was different this oci.

Remember, I'm that feller whose truck was rebuilt, put back together on a new frame due to an accident(broadsided an eighteen wheeler gravel truck that ran an stop sign)last November, 2023.

My truck has a new frame, radiator/ac condenser/clutch fan assembly/front bumper facia/grill/fenders/hood/ headlamps/fog lamp assembly/engine bay frame rails and the cab pulled back into alignment.

Everything else was pulled off the original frame and installed on a new one: cab/bed /tail gate engine/tranny/front end upper and lower A arms/front wheel hubs/ drive shaft/rear differential and panhard bar/gas tank/spare tire rear bumper and wheels/tires ... I might have left something out, idk ... my truck was in the shop for six months.

My point is, I hope that my HEMI doesn't have any internal problems due to the accident that might have caused the wear numbers to be higher with iron and aluminum. I'll probably find out when(or if)it happens.

My HEMI was due for an oci right before the accident and when I got it back is when I did the oci, so, I run short oci's(3000 miles)and I'll send off another sample to Blackstone Labs and hope that those results will be more normal.

Fwiw, my HEMI runs just fine, idles smooth and quiet as it did before the accident. No engine dry start up clatter or ticky, nadda.

... I don't tow with my truck and the Winter was normal.

 

[Burla]

Well, next oci will tell the story if there is an issue or not. Certainly troubling but no where near a real problem your numbers.

 

[JHoward]

Well, next oci will tell the story if there is an issue or not. Certainly troubling but no where near a real problem your numbers.

Also, to note that the TIN was back to normal @ 1 pm from 4 ppm on the previous oci sample ... could have been that "oil packaging thing" with Red Line that was mentioned awhile back?

 

[JHoward]

Here's a pic of what my truck looks like after the repairs were made.

 

[Curmudgeon]

@JHoward , what oil and filter (and additives?) are in your truck now?
Was this your 1st or only use of Red Line 5w-30?
What were you running previously?

My truck is currently due and I have 8 quarts of RL 5w-30 on hand to
replace the PUP 5w-20 that's been in it for 3000 miles.
I'm also planning on replacing the RP 20-820 with a Purolator Boss PBL24651.
A UOA for this oil, and again after running the Red Line for 3k-5k miles.

I'm also guilty of forgetting about your accident. Probably quite a jolt to anything
that wasn't replaced.

 

[JHoward]

@JHoward , what oil and filter (and additives?) are in your truck now?
Was this your 1st or only use of Red Line 5w-30?
What were you running previously?

My truck is currently due and I have 8 quarts of RL 5w-30 on hand to
replace the PUP 5w-20 that's been in it for 3000 miles.
I'm also planning on replacing the RP 20-820 with a Purolator Boss PBL24651.
A UOA for this oil, and again after running the Red Line for 3k-5k miles.

I'm also guilty of forgetting about your accident. Probably quite a jolt to anything
that wasn't replaced.

Lol, I've been back in my truck about two months and I'm that feller who switched from using the Royal Purple 20-820 to the Purolator Boss PBL 24651and still using Red Line 5w/30 and have never used oil additives.

My HEMI is on its fifth run of Red Line 5w/30. I had used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w/20 and MOPAR MO339 oil filters when the truck was new and switched to the Purolator Boss PBL 24651at about the time I started reading the RAMforum and learned about Red Line oil/Royal Purple oil filters for the benefit of the HEMI engine, that's when I made the change using that oil/oil filter combo.

 

[CanuckRam1313]

Lol, what was different this oci.

Remember, I'm that feller whose truck was rebuilt, put back together on a new frame due to an accident(broadsided an eighteen wheeler gravel truck that ran an stop sign)last November, 2023.

My truck has a new frame, radiator/ac condenser/clutch fan assembly/front bumper facia/grill/fenders/hood/ headlamps/fog lamp assembly/engine bay frame rails and the cab pulled back into alignment.

Everything else was pulled off the original frame and installed on a new one: cab/bed /tail gate engine/tranny/front end upper and lower A arms/front wheel hubs/ drive shaft/rear differential and panhard bar/gas tank/spare tire rear bumper and wheels/tires ... I might have left something out, idk ... my truck was in the shop for six months.

My point is, I hope that my HEMI doesn't have any internal problems due to the accident that might have caused the wear numbers to be higher with iron and aluminum. I'll probably find out when(or if)it happens.

My HEMI was due for an oci right before the accident and when I got it back is when I did the oci, so, I run short oci's(3000 miles)and I'll send off another sample to Blackstone Labs and hope that those results will be more normal.

Fwiw, my HEMI runs just fine, idles smooth and quiet as it did before the accident. No engine dry start up clatter or ticky, nadda.

... I don't tow with my truck and the Winter was normal.

Does any of your documentation have cascade damage effects indicated anywhere?
(either you requesting that this verbiage be included, or the insurance company/repair shop indicating it)?

I say this as a repair/rebuild of the magnitude your truck had, there could be potential for engine and/or transmission issues due to the severe impact your truck took during the collision last November 2023.

Getting smacked hard by a semi is no joke, and that force could have the potential to shift things a bit thus causing abnormal wear on critical internal components in ones engine and/or transmission.

 

[Yardbird]

Does any of your documentation have cascade damage effects indicated anywhere?
(either you requesting that this verbiage be included, or the insurance company/repair shop indicating it)?

I say this as a repair/rebuild of the magnitude your truck had, there could be potential for engine and/or transmission issues due to the severe impact your truck took during the collision last November 2023.

Getting smacked hard by a semi is no joke, and that force could have the potential to shift things a bit thus causing abnormal wear on critical internal components in ones engine and/or transmission.

Or a possibly of a tweaked crankshaft from the wreck.

 

[JHoward]

Does anyone remember awhile back on the discussion about a few folks that were using Red Line oil having the increased amount of TIN showing on their oil lab report and if it were possibly related to a ... I don't remember.

I'm to lazy to go back and look for posts.

 

[JHoward]

However, the TIN on my HEMI''s recent oil report has decreased from 4 ppm back to normal 1 ppm, so again, Idk.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Does anyone remember awhile back on the discussion about a few folks that were using Red Line oil having the increased amount of TIN showing on their oil lab report and if it were possibly related to a ... I don't remember.

I'm to lazy to go back and look for posts.

I remember this. I thought somebody asked Dave @ Red Line about it, then he up and retired?

 

[Burla]

Does anyone remember awhile back on the discussion about a few folks that were using Red Line oil having the increased amount of TIN showing on their oil lab report and if it were possibly related to a ... I don't remember.

I'm to lazy to go back and look for posts.

It is just something that shows up in many oils, not redline, go look random voa's. Nothing burger either way. There is an answer, I forgot who brought it maybe Travis, but there is a reason for the tin in random samples.

 

[emjohn4]

If it was in the shop for that kind of work - I'll bet you the number of cold start turn on / off on / off again was astronomical during the repairs.

It's not like the body / repair shop is going to let it run and idle down when they turn it on to move it 3 feet.